Posts by Nathan Natas

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Elders fly to New York to challenge governing body

by usualusername1 in

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just saw this amazing video on youtube about brothers in ireland who were so upset with the ray grand fiasco they flew to new york to meet the governing body.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9-1dekqfmza.

Nathan Natas

"Ray Grand" you say?

Use autocorrect much?

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YMCA?

by LifesNotOver in

my husband's gone to his meeting and i'm catching up with folks here on our forum.

i'm sure i'm having a better time :) anyway, was just following some posts regarding the un and there happened to be a copy of a magazine article stating brothers wouldn't want to be joining the "y" because it was "christian".

i think this was back in the 1950's (maybe not).

Nathan Natas

Ten days ago, as noted in this thread, I sent an email to the US YMCA, and today I got a very brief and rather non-specific reply. It goes:

"Thank you for contacting YMCA of the USA. At the Y, we are very proud of our Christian heritage, which is expressed through our mission statement – To put Christian principles into practice through programs that build healthy spirit, mind and body for all – and our core values of caring, honesty, respect and responsibility, among other ways. This has not changed and will not change.

Catika Smith

Call Center Representative

YMCA OF THE USA

101 N Wacker Drive, Chicago IL 60606

(Toll Free) 800 872 9622 (W) ymca.net"

***********

I told you I'd be back with the US YMCA reply and I keep my word.

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Abandoned by JW and yet trapped

by awake!watcher in

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had an enlightening discussion with my 20 something, baptised, awake son.

he said he feels abandoned by the religion, and yet trapped at the same time.

i had never thought about it that way before, but can totally understand where he is coming from.

Nathan Natas

Your son has come to a crossroads in his life.

He can decide, "This crap stops HERE and it stops NOW. My future and the future of my children will not be dictated by a fear-mongering mind-control cult," or he can choose to be a pussy.

Pick up some cat food on the way home tonite.

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Tips on how to raise money

by Holden Caufield in

i need some ideas to raise money for my study research trip for west africa in cape coast ghana..

Nathan Natas

Sell your organs - all of them.

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Why do so many JW's argue that they do not believe what they clearly do?

by Crabby in

i ask a question recently, which was why do jw's not salute the flag, and i ask what page of the bible directs this practice.. all i got back was that i do not know what i am talking about and that they are allowed to do this, when i dropped 40000 google links proving that they do not salute the flag they just deleted it as though my proof could not exist.

seriously this is common knowledge, my neighbor just put up a flag to keep the guy across the street away.

so are there jw's who have no clue what they believe, or should believe?

Nathan Natas

It seems to me that the WTB&TS of today is not the WTB&TS that I knew in the days of my youth. Back in the day, there was a strong emphasis on being able to "defend and legally establish" what we believed.

After 1975, the thinking members of the BORG began to leave and after the death of Freddie "Oracle" Franz, there was no inheritor of his prophet's robe...

Dummies and simpletons run the WTB&TS now, and they "teach" gullible ones who are dumber and simpler than they are. It's becoming an end-times social club with no social events, held together by the irrational fear "but what if they are right?"

It's a theatrical spectacle - a tragi-comedy - for the angels and those who are smarter than the angels. People who leave the Borg now have not yet learned to think and take offense when someone replies to their inane posts with a raspberry.

Please don't poke the chimps.

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Comments and Questions for pdf creators

by Lady Lee in

i hasve a couple of questions and some comments about things i have noticed.. if you have found the same problem at least i'll know it isn't my computer.. when i open some of the pdf files i have found on the internet they look good.

well the cover page looks good.

but if i go further into the book it all begins to look greek to me.

Nathan Natas

wifibandit,

Did you notice that this thread is 10 years old? A few years ago Lady Lee left this discussion board, so it is unlikely you will hear anything from her.

You meant well, though, I think, and that generous spirit should not go unnoticed.

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The two faces of mrs hoser

by hoser in

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they say women are hard to figure out.

she is is proactive about retirement planning but talks about how things might be in the new system.

she shuns one of our children (dfd) but put him as beneficiary one one of her life insurance policies.

Nathan Natas

I can't criticize this - it is called "hedging your bet", and The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society does it all the time, 24/7/365.

She is balancing her fantasy of Paradise with rational, real-world planning.

I wish her success.

Too few JWs do this.

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Amazing Kingdom Hall transformation

by Esse quam videri in

so, on tues august 2/16 i happen to be driving down westminster highway in richmond, b.c.

[a suburb of vancouver] and notice activity at the kingdom hall at shell ave. hmm, i say to myself, they must be having a 'work bee' or some such thing.

i continue on to work.